Friday, 11 April 2008

Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Graded Players

Edmonton Oilers

2007 Version

Historical Review of Draft Results

Graded Players, Summary Of

Please reserve comment for a future post wherein I will request commentary on the review as a whole.

Applying the Player Grading System to the draft pool of the Edmonton Oilers I came up with this:

Hall of Fame level (grade A+ / score 600)

We know who these guys are, their accomplishments speak for themselves. While Hall of Fame players are often called 'superstars', this is actually quite limiting. A Hall of Fame player can also be a player who has been a 'star' long enough, and consistently enough, to earn the universal respect of the hockey world. Kevin Lowe only has one remarkable statistic on his Hall of Fame resume - the number 6 - which is the number of Stanley Cup rings he earned in his underrated, and brilliant, career.

Kevin Lowe, Mark Messier, Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffey, Jari Kurri, Grant Fuhr

Star level (grade A / score 300)

Star caliber players have excelled, literally excelled, at their position or role on the team. However, they have never done enough to be considered one of THE elite players at the position. Players that get this rating don't always have to have amazing point totals; Guy Carboneau never had great point totals but he did win a whack of Stanley Cups and trophy hardware, enough in fact that he could be Hall of Fame material - let alone a 'star'. Brendan Shanahan may be hard pressed to get in the Hall, as will Doug Weight, but they are both 'star' caliber players.

Andy Moog, Esa Tikkanen, Jason Arnott, Miroslav Satan, Ryan Smyth

Solid level (grade B / score 150)

Never quite gaining 'star' status, a 'solid' NHL player is welcome on any NHL team. Their contribution(s) to their team’s - whether from talent (think Slava Kozlov) or desire (think McSorley – pre-hatchet work) - is generally not in question. They have produced enough, long enough, to be considered an asset of some worth. Note that there are two additional sub-classes of 'solid' players - high-level 'journeymen' who have incredible longevity (a Van Allen type) and those 'star' players who don't have the longevity (think Poddubny).

Walt Poddubny, Steve Smith, Jeff Beukeboom, Kelly Buchberger, Shaun Van Allen, Shjon Podein, Martin Rucinsky, Kirk Maltby, Tom Poti, Shawn Horcoff, Mike Comrie, Ales Hemsky

Journeyman level (grade C / score 90)

No NHL team can survive without the role-players on the team; someone has to do the dirty work. They are 'solid' players in their own right but never achieve the higher rating for one of two reasons: they never played enough games or they never really rose above the 4th line/#6 defenseman status they had. Where a player like Grier will probably attain a 'solid' player ranking (given a few more years), a player like Dowd will be hard pressed to ever be considered more than a 'journeyman' (even though playing with Gaborik may obfuscate the issue).

Marc Habshied, Todd Ewen, Brad Werenka, Geoff Smith, Josef Beranek, Anatoli Semenov, Tyler Wright, David Vyborny, Georges Laraque, Boyd Devereaux, Fernando Pisani, Jason Chimera, Matthew Lombardi, Jussi Markannen, Jarret Stoll, Matt Greene

Borderline level (grade D / score 30)

Players who never fulfilled their potential, and ultimately, frittered away their NHL career. Some players in this category could have had one, or even two, remarkable seasons - they just never put it all together for any real length of time. 'Borderline' also describes players in the NHL right now who have careers in a state of flux - will they pan out, or not? Consider Jimmy Carson - a great rookie (L.A.), a decent sophomore (Edm.) and a lackluster career (everywhere). Too talented to be a 'journeyman', never a 'star' and not around long enough to be a 'solid' player.

Jaroslav Pouzar, Raimo Summanen, Don Barber, Francois Leroux, Len Barrie, Peter White, David Oliver, Brad Norton, Mike Watt, Ladislav Benysek, Steve Kelly, Alex Henry, Alexei Semenov, Brad Winchester

Coffee level (grade E / score 00)

As in 'Cup of Coffee'. This is the guy who shows up for a few games as an injury fill-in but is sent right back down when expendable. No impact at all on the major leagues (as a player at least).

Mike Toal, Blair Barnes, Todd Strueby, Paul Houck, Miroslav Horava, Gord Sherven, Jim Playfair, Steve Graves, Dean Clark, John Miner, Selmar Odelein, Daryl Reaugh, Scott Metcalfe, Mike Ware, Kim Issel, Dan Currie, David Haas, Jim Ennis, Mike Greenlay, Peter Eriksson, Tomas Srsen, Igor Vyazmikin, Trevor Sim, Davis Payne, Darcy Martini, Kelly Fairchild, Joe Hulbig, Ralph Intranuovo, Joaquin Gage, Marko Tuomainen, Nick Stajduhar, Alexander Kerch, Ilja Byakin, Jason Bonsignore, Mike Minard, Matthieu Descoteaux, Chris Hajt, Michel Reisen, Peter Sarno, Michael Morrison, Jani Rita, Tony Salmelainen, Adam Hauser, Alexei Mikhnov, Doug Lynch, Kari Haakana, Ales Pisa, Shay Stephenson

Unranked players and prospects (grade F or UNR / score - 30)

Didn't even make the show. Not a reflection of character (none of the categories are really). Just a fact. Note that this ranking applies somewhat differently to prospects. In the case of prospects, what matters is the 'buzz' surrounding that player. Unranked prospects, by definition, aren't expected to make the show. Most late round draft picks fall into this category by default while most early round draft picks have to play their way into it (not a good thing btw).

Too many to name - 157 players, 23 prospects... and counting.

Star level prospects (grade STP / score 120)

The next big thing. Will score goals by the bucketful or stop everything bigger than a pea from getting into the net. Every team wants to draft these players (or trade for them) and few teams have them. No one exactly what the new guy will do in the show but everyone KNOWS they will do something. Of course, 'will do' often turns into 'should have done' but we will leave that alone for now.

Andrew Cogliano, Sam Gagner

Solid level prospects (grade SLP / score 60)

Sure this guy may not be the next Selanne, but everyone thinks that he MIGHT be able to do something at the pro-level. He might just end-up as a 'journeyman' that bounces from team to team and pots 20-40 points a year OR he might be the next Glenn Anderson, BUT at least he it hoped that he will do SOMETHING. Please note the distinction there - 'solid prospects' might while 'star prospects' should.

Zack Stortini, Kyle Brodziak, Rob Schremp, Taylor Chorney, Jeff Petry, Riley Nash

Borderline level prospects (grade BRD / score 00)

Will this guy even make it to the NHL? Who knows? They may be a surprise to everyone if they ever find the right situation with the right team. Question is: is Edmonton that team? Most '?' prospects will probably get a cup of coffee with the team, but anything more than that is a guess. Expansion figures large with this category as talent depth is so thin everyone sifts through waiver wire prospects for copper.

Jeff Drouin-Deslauriers, Marc-Antoine Pouliot, Jean-Francois Jacques, Mathieu Roy, Devan Dubnyk, Liam Reddox, Bjorn Bjurling, Chris Vande Velde, Vyacheslav Trukhno, Cody Wild, Alexandre Plante


Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Introduction
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results Summation

Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 1979 to 1983
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 1984 to 1988
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 1989 to 1993
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 1994 to 1998
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 1999 to 2003
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Yrs 2004 to 2007

Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Year
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Pick
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Round
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Age
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Position
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By League
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Draft Results By Country of Birth

Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Player Grading System
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Graded Players Summary
Edmonton Oilers 2007 HRDR - Data Set Changes


Have a great evening everyone.


Master Lok said...

Great idea YK. However, I'd argue that some of your borderline prospects (BRD score 0) should get at least be considered D grade players (score 30). For example, Pouliot and Jacques both has played enough NHL games I think to qualify at least as D grade players (30 points) instead of zero points.

Bruce said...

Nice work. I agree with most of your gradings, but will comment on a couple of exceptions.

Steve Smith: 804 GP, 72-303-375, +144, 2139 PiM plus another 134 GP in the playoffs; three seasons of 54+ points, eight seasons of 160+ PiM, three Stanley Cups -- to me that is a "star" level player.

(Interestingly he was the second Steve Smith drafted in the 1981 draft (6th round, 111th overall). The other one (1st round, 16th overall by Philadelphia) played all of 18 GP over 6(!) different seasons, scoring 0-1-1, -2. Definitely NOT a star.)

Secondly, Jaroslav Pouzar was definitely NOT a "borderline" player. He was 31 when drafted so he had a limited shelf life, but played in Edmonton for four seasons, and went to the Stanley Cup Final all four times, winning three of them. Surely that's at least worthy of "journeyman" status; I personally would bump him all the way up to "solid". He was a beauty.